As I've explored the practice of budo taijutsu, kihon hoppa of course, is at the center of our practice. And of course we have our traditional eight waza that are the start of our practice. But kihon hoppa is also about infinite variation that needs to be experienced within training that starts from a firm foundation, or that point in the center of space that we all experience when we refine our technique to a degree where we can explore infinite variations. And kihon hoppa is really that infinite attitude toward martial arts as well. It is both the starting point and really the ending point.